Please!! Devoties! Can ANYONE who knows english make transcribtion for this video??? Your service will allow all Russian-speaking devotees to watch this interesting video. Hare Krishna!
So the title of this morning's discussion is the first step in resolving the controversy over the current role of the Guru and ISKCON.
Now something I should say right now is what we're trying to achieve here we don't expect to resolve the issue during three or four hours this morning but we're going to give a chance for the issue to be aired in public in this fashion maybe for the first time. We met this morning, the participants met this morning for about a half an hour to go over the format and agree on the rules of the presentation and so forth. So what's going to be happening is that for the next hour the devotees from New Jaipur will be presenting their point of view on this issue and then after that we've allotted another hour for reply by Rabindra Swarup and Jayadvaita Swami. Then after that we're going to take a 15-minute break and immediately after the break we're going to have a question and answer session. The questions should be submitted in writing and the questions will be answered by both groups within a specified amount of time.
So as you think of questions issues that you'd like to see discussed or brought up then please write them down. You can either give them to Naveen Krishna during the break or Narshinga the sergeant-at-arms will periodically go around and collect your questions. The questions that will be excepted will be questions that are the most on the topic and seemed to be relevant and interesting to the greatest number of devotees. This question is directed to a particular person or to one side or to everyone. If you might you can direct the question to a particular person but both points of view are going to have a chance to express themselves on each issue. Now we've also decided on a few rules for the discussion. Number one is that we're not going to talk about the history of the development of the Guru system after Shrila Prabhupad's departure. We feel that, that issue has been going over enough but what the focus of this discussion is what system that Shrila Prabhupad want for continuing the disciplic succession and will also focus on the present state of initiations in ISKCON.
A few operating rules are that the speakers will be interrupted if they significantly wander off the topic or if they cast dispersions on any individual either present or not present on their character or their motives in devotional service. Also speakers will be warned if they insult any other speaker or if the voices start to get raised or somehow or other, this discussion is interrupted and not heeding the warning then the speakers will lose their speaking privileges. Yes Haribilas Prabhu.......then mention that on your piece of paper pass it forward, you have a comment to make on a specific topic and if there's time after we've if we see that everyone is satisfied in the questions and answers and that the major issues have gotten aired then we have a little extra time.... will allow devotees to get up for a few minutes and speak their point of view. Since we're not expecting to reach a conclusion here the last half an hour of this meeting which is running till two o'clock will be dedicated to taking proposals for continuing the process. First we're going to ask the devotees whether you're interested in continuing this process, whether you think that it should be discussed further in the society and if so then we'll take specific proposals as to how this could become an ongoing process until such time as it's resolved. Any questions about the procedure? Okay then we'll be good.. Did we agree on a specific topic ...yes I said that ...what system that Srila Prabhupada want for continuing the sampradaya.
Okay any other questions all right this floor is yours. We are focusing on the present state of the guru system in ISKCON. We're not going to talk about what happened after Srila Prabhupad departed. what mistakes people think may have been made or like that...yes Prabhu.... Will it be reasonable to ask if another few of the devotees here could go on this side, let's say the GBC side or whatever, with Jaibhadra Swami in case they do have comments like some other devotees could speak up without sending the paper and say ...Well that's up to them...this is their presentation. They want to bring anybody else up they are free to, they can go negotiate with them....Yes I'd like to thank all the participants for taking the trouble to come here and before we start let's take a moment to offer our obeisances to all the assembled Vaishnavas.
Now something I should say right now is what we're trying to achieve here we don't expect to resolve the issue during three or four hours this morning but we're going to give a chance for the issue to be aired in public in this fashion maybe for the first time. We met this morning, the participants met this morning for about a half an hour to go over the format and agree on the rules of the presentation and so forth. So what's going to be happening is that for the next hour the devotees from New Jaipur will be presenting their point of view on this issue and then after that we've allotted another hour for reply by Rabindra Swarup and Jayadvaita Swami. Then after that we're going to take a 15-minute break and immediately after the break we're going to have a question and answer session. The questions should be submitted in writing and the questions will be answered by both groups within a specified amount of time.
So as you think of questions issues that you'd like to see discussed or brought up then please write them down. You can either give them to Naveen Krishna during the break or Narshinga the sergeant-at-arms will periodically go around and collect your questions. The questions that will be excepted will be questions that are the most on the topic and seemed to be relevant and interesting to the greatest number of devotees. This question is directed to a particular person or to one side or to everyone. If you might you can direct the question to a particular person but both points of view are going to have a chance to express themselves on each issue. Now we've also decided on a few rules for the discussion. Number one is that we're not going to talk about the history of the development of the Guru system after Shrila Prabhupad's departure. We feel that, that issue has been going over enough but what the focus of this discussion is what system that Shrila Prabhupad want for continuing the disciplic succession and will also focus on the present state of initiations in ISKCON.
A few operating rules are that the speakers will be interrupted if they significantly wander off the topic or if they cast dispersions on any individual either present or not present on their character or their motives in devotional service. Also speakers will be warned if they insult any other speaker or if the voices start to get raised or somehow or other, this discussion is interrupted and not heeding the warning then the speakers will lose their speaking privileges. Yes Haribilas Prabhu.......then mention that on your piece of paper pass it forward, you have a comment to make on a specific topic and if there's time after we've if we see that everyone is satisfied in the questions and answers and that the major issues have gotten aired then we have a little extra time.... will allow devotees to get up for a few minutes and speak their point of view. Since we're not expecting to reach a conclusion here the last half an hour of this meeting which is running till two o'clock will be dedicated to taking proposals for continuing the process. First we're going to ask the devotees whether you're interested in continuing this process, whether you think that it should be discussed further in the society and if so then we'll take specific proposals as to how this could become an ongoing process until such time as it's resolved. Any questions about the procedure? Okay then we'll be good.. Did we agree on a specific topic ...yes I said that ...what system that Srila Prabhupada want for continuing the sampradaya.
Okay any other questions all right this floor is yours. We are focusing on the present state of the guru system in ISKCON. We're not going to talk about what happened after Srila Prabhupad departed. what mistakes people think may have been made or like that...yes Prabhu.... Will it be reasonable to ask if another few of the devotees here could go on this side, let's say the GBC side or whatever, with Jaibhadra Swami in case they do have comments like some other devotees could speak up without sending the paper and say ...Well that's up to them...this is their presentation. They want to bring anybody else up they are free to, they can go negotiate with them....Yes I'd like to thank all the participants for taking the trouble to come here and before we start let's take a moment to offer our obeisances to all the assembled Vaishnavas.
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