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    • ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990s
      ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990s
      Reply 4 years ago thumb_up 1
      Replying to andycookin
      Both are possible. Our disciplic succession has many gaps, going all the way back to Krsna 5000 years ago. The problem rests on being able to identify a genuine Pure Devotee.
      @biren5445 Got your EVIDENCE?
    • ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990s
      ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990s
      Reply 4 years ago
      Replying to andycookin
      Both are possible. Our disciplic succession has many gaps, going all the way back to Krsna 5000 years ago. The problem rests on being able to identify a genuine Pure Devotee.
      @biren5445 Read this first
    • ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990s
      ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990s
      Reply 4 years ago
      Replying to andycookin
      Both are possible. Our disciplic succession has many gaps, going all the way back to Krsna 5000 years ago. The problem rests on being able to identify a genuine Pure Devotee.
      @biren5445 : All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents

      —

      Vrindaban

      9 July, 1977

      To All G.B.C., and Temple Presidents

      Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,

      Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all of the GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as “ritvik–representative of the acarya, for the purpose of performing initiations, both first initiation and second initiation. His Divine Grace has so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity:

      His Holiness Kirtanananda Swami

      His Holiness Satsvarupa dasa Gosvami

      His Holiness Jayapataka Swami

      His Holiness Tamala Krsna Gosvami

      His Holiness Hrdayananda Gosvami

      His Holiness Bhavananda Gosvami

      His Holiness Hamsaduta Swami

      His Holiness Ramesvara Swami

      His Holiness Harikesa Swami

      His Grace Bhagavan dasa Adhikari

      His Grace Jayatirtha dasa Adhikari

      In the past Temple Presidents have written to Srila Prabhupada recommending a particular devotee’s initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada has done. The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative. After the Temple President receives a letter from these representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has accepted him or her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace’s “Initiated Disciples” book.

      Hoping this finds you all well.

      Your servant,

      Tamala Krsna Gosvami

      Approved: A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
    • ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990s
      ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990s
      Reply 4 years ago thumb_up 1
      Replying to andycookin
      Both are possible. Our disciplic succession has many gaps, going all the way back to Krsna 5000 years ago. The problem rests on being able to identify a genuine Pure Devotee.
      @biren5445 July 9th Letter PERIOD.
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