It is obviously natural while one is alive, but after leaving the body, not anymore. The ritvik conspiracy is childish, you do not mention the fact that even the current Iskcon gurus do initiation from a distance, you do not mention that Prabhupada never said that this will continue after he leaves the body, it is OBVIOUS that while the guru is alive, the disciples initiate through him, obviously. But after he leaves the body, not anymore.
In fact Prabhupada said this:
Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay:
So everything is there. We have got good shelter all over the world. We have got income. You stick to our principles, follow the... Even if I die suddenly, you'll be able to manage. That's all. That I want. Manage nicely and let the movement go forward. Now arrange. Don't go backward. Be careful. Āpani ācari prabhu jīveri śikṣāya.
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This conversation was during the Rtvik system being active, and Prabhupada clearly says that he has given allready everything, whole system, and even if he dies suddenly we can keep going as it is.
Isn't the understanding from this to any intelligent man, that Prabhupada didn't want to do any changes anymore. So where do you get the "OBVIOUS" opinion that Prabhupada would have wanted Rtvik system to end?
DID PRABHUPADA EVER TELL TO STOP THE RTVIK SYSTEN AT ANY POINT? Answer is no, and you can't show such references. Removes whole validity of your empty arguments.
I can go on forever since the truth and all evidence is in our pocket.
It is obviously natural while one is alive, but after leaving the body, not anymore. The ritvik conspiracy is childish, you do not mention the fact that even the current Iskcon gurus do initiation from a distance, you do not mention that Prabhupada never said that this will continue after he leaves the body, it is OBVIOUS that while the guru is alive, the disciples initiate through him, obviously. But after he leaves the body, not anymore.
Its is obivious that Rtvik system has nothing to do with being alive or not. Where you get this "obivious" point from? Take your head out of that dark hole and open your eyes.
Only obivious thing is that either you never read Prabhupadas order, or you don't understand what english term "henceforward" means. It doesn't mean "for the time being", it means means "from this time on" or "starting now and continuing into the future."
Examples:
• Henceforth, you are not allowed to enter this area.
→ From now on, you're not allowed in.
• He announced that henceforward, all meetings would be virtual.
→ From this point forward, all meetings will be virtual.
Isn't this meaning of henceforward really obivious to you too? Or you speak some advanced Iskconite english?
Do better my dear Mataji before its too late for you too. Tamal Kṛṣṇa won't come to help you in hell i promise you that.
It is obviously natural while one is alive, but after leaving the body, not anymore. The ritvik conspiracy is childish, you do not mention the fact that even the current Iskcon gurus do initiation from a distance, you do not mention that Prabhupada never said that this will continue after he leaves the body, it is OBVIOUS that while the guru is alive, the disciples initiate through him, obviously. But after he leaves the body, not anymore.
Its is obvious that Rtvik system has nothing to do with being alive or not. Where you get this "obivious" point from? Take your head out of that dark hole and open your eyes.
Only obivious thing is that either you never read Prabhupadas order, or you don't understand what english term "henceforward" means. It doesn't mean "for the time being", it means means "from this time on" or "starting now and continuing into the future."
Examples:
• Henceforth, you are not allowed to enter this area.
→ From now on, you're not allowed in.
• He announced that henceforward, all meetings would be virtual.
→ From this point forward, all meetings will be virtual.
Isn't this meaning of henceforward really obivious to you too? Or you speak some advanced Iskconite english?
Do better my dear Mataji before its too late for you too. Tamal Kṛṣṇa won't come to help you in hell i promise you that.
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Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay:
So everything is there. We have got good shelter all over the world. We have got income. You stick to our principles, follow the... Even if I die suddenly, you'll be able to manage. That's all. That I want. Manage nicely and let the movement go forward. Now arrange. Don't go backward. Be careful. Āpani ācari prabhu jīveri śikṣāya.
/////
This conversation was during the Rtvik system being active, and Prabhupada clearly says that he has given allready everything, whole system, and even if he dies suddenly we can keep going as it is.
Isn't the understanding from this to any intelligent man, that Prabhupada didn't want to do any changes anymore. So where do you get the "OBVIOUS" opinion that Prabhupada would have wanted Rtvik system to end?
DID PRABHUPADA EVER TELL TO STOP THE RTVIK SYSTEN AT ANY POINT? Answer is no, and you can't show such references. Removes whole validity of your empty arguments.
I can go on forever since the truth and all evidence is in our pocket.
Only obivious thing is that either you never read Prabhupadas order, or you don't understand what english term "henceforward" means. It doesn't mean "for the time being", it means means "from this time on" or "starting now and continuing into the future."
Examples:
• Henceforth, you are not allowed to enter this area.
→ From now on, you're not allowed in.
• He announced that henceforward, all meetings would be virtual.
→ From this point forward, all meetings will be virtual.
Isn't this meaning of henceforward really obivious to you too? Or you speak some advanced Iskconite english?
Do better my dear Mataji before its too late for you too. Tamal Kṛṣṇa won't come to help you in hell i promise you that.
Only obivious thing is that either you never read Prabhupadas order, or you don't understand what english term "henceforward" means. It doesn't mean "for the time being", it means means "from this time on" or "starting now and continuing into the future."
Examples:
• Henceforth, you are not allowed to enter this area.
→ From now on, you're not allowed in.
• He announced that henceforward, all meetings would be virtual.
→ From this point forward, all meetings will be virtual.
Isn't this meaning of henceforward really obivious to you too? Or you speak some advanced Iskconite english?
Do better my dear Mataji before its too late for you too. Tamal Kṛṣṇa won't come to help you in hell i promise you that.