These fools will never accept the importance of a living sadhu and hearing bhagwatam from his lips not from his tape records.
@radhabhaav9217 Anybody may claim that Srila Prabhupada spoke personally to them. And Gaura Govinda Swami only began initiating after getting voted in as guru in 1986. If Srila Prabhupada gave him authority, why did he need to depend on mundane votes? Srila Prabhupada wrote in Srimad Bhagavatam that a diksa guru doesn't needs mundane votes to start initiating. If Gaura Govinda Swami was being truthful, he should have started giving initiations in 1978 itself.
He who dosen't understand the difference between Iswar and Mahapurush claims to dole spiritual elevation.
@vishnugupt1055 You don't have to say it as it's an axiomatic truth. The Vedas are apaurusheya, or authorless. The Mahabharatha was authored by Veda Vyasa, who also compiled the Puranas. If you accept the Mahabharata as Vedic, then you also have to accept the Puranas as Vedic.
I love it when the Australian says Jesus never opted violence for violence . But ridiculously that Yankee Monk from USA says we will meet Violence with Violence tarnishing the very idea of compassion in Vaisnava philosophy. ISKON is full of boastful aggressive people who treats other communities like pests until you endorse with them . Thats not Vaisnavism . actual Vaisnava philosophy teaches one to be more humble than a grass and tolerant like a mountain . but they are doing quite the opposite. Prabhupada is not worthy of claiming himself even the servant of Prophet Jesus . ISKON is the worst kind of institution I have ever witnessed.
@abhiksarkar2964 It was the Australians who were trying to cause trouble in a peaceful session, when they were requested to ask questions. The barbarians only tried to insult & degrade the devotees in the Q & A session. Violence is sometimes necessary to establish dharma. And here violence means strong arguments against the challenge. Not taking up of swords. What the devotee meant was a challenge will be meant with a strong rebuttal & were prepared for a debate, if that's what the challengers wanted.
The Pandavas were devotees who were trying to establish dharma but the envious Kauravas were standing in the way. Here ISKCON devotees were trying to establish the dharma of the Bhagavad Gita. The envious audience members were to trying to ruin their efforts.
He who dosen't understand the difference between Iswar and Mahapurush claims to dole spiritual elevation.
@vishnugupt1055 Keep the discussion in context. We're comparing philosophical potencies of the Gita translations. Not leelas of a convicted rapist with die hard followers.
Krsna took Sandipani Muni as His guru to exemplify verse 4.34 of the Bhagavad Gita. One can only approach Him throught a bona fide guru. Who else to guide us in that direction if not God Himself?
As guru daksina, He brought back His guru's son from death. Why would Sandipani Muni ask this of Him, if he's an ordinary human? And why are you ignoring His leelas elsewhere, showing His inconceivable potencies? An ordinary person lifting Govardana? Killing great demons? Tricking Brahma who tried to trick Him ?
In any case He understood the Vedas in one sitting & hearing. In verse 15.15 of the Gita, Krsna says he's to be known from the Vedas & He is the knower of the Vedas. Arjuna decided to fight only after his doubts were cleared by Krsna Himself. Arjuna declares Krsna to be the Supreme Person. As do other great devotees as Narada, Vyasa, Sukadeva, etc.
The rasa leela is about the gopis themselves wanting to join Krsna, not the other way around. Since you mention the rasa leela, did you know that Lord Krsna expanded Himself to many forms so that each gopi gets to dance with Him? No ordinary person can expand himself to any number of forms.
Srimati Radharani's name is mentioned in various Puranas. It's there in the Padma Purana & Bhagavatha Purana, among others. If you'd spent a few minutes Googling you'd find out.
And your claim of ISKCON having a negligible following in India, can also be said of any spiritual organizations fighting for attention in that chaotic situation.
I love it when the Australian says Jesus never opted violence for violence . But ridiculously that Yankee Monk from USA says we will meet Violence with Violence tarnishing the very idea of compassion in Vaisnava philosophy. ISKON is full of boastful aggressive people who treats other communities like pests until you endorse with them . Thats not Vaisnavism . actual Vaisnava philosophy teaches one to be more humble than a grass and tolerant like a mountain . but they are doing quite the opposite. Prabhupada is not worthy of claiming himself even the servant of Prophet Jesus . ISKON is the worst kind of institution I have ever witnessed.
@abhiksarkar2964 Obviously you're a fake who hasn't read the Mahabharatha or Ramayana. Arjuna & Hanuman acted violently to establish dharma only.
Followers of Christ and islam always rant about demon or satan nonsense. Which imply that there is power beyond jesus to control. In Hinduism lord shiva was worshipped by both lord rama and Ravana. They all were devotees and had equal blessings. This is what a true lord Mahadev is. All thing good and bad is power of God. Proper balanced they will led to prosperity
The narration of Krsna marrying Rukmini is found in the puranas, not any Vedas. You discredit the puranas yet quote a leela from the same puranas!
Gosh, truly this kali yuga is the age of hypocrisy.
The Pandavas were devotees who were trying to establish dharma but the envious Kauravas were standing in the way. Here ISKCON devotees were trying to establish the dharma of the Bhagavad Gita. The envious audience members were to trying to ruin their efforts.
Krsna took Sandipani Muni as His guru to exemplify verse 4.34 of the Bhagavad Gita. One can only approach Him throught a bona fide guru. Who else to guide us in that direction if not God Himself?
As guru daksina, He brought back His guru's son from death. Why would Sandipani Muni ask this of Him, if he's an ordinary human? And why are you ignoring His leelas elsewhere, showing His inconceivable potencies? An ordinary person lifting Govardana? Killing great demons? Tricking Brahma who tried to trick Him ?
In any case He understood the Vedas in one sitting & hearing. In verse 15.15 of the Gita, Krsna says he's to be known from the Vedas & He is the knower of the Vedas. Arjuna decided to fight only after his doubts were cleared by Krsna Himself. Arjuna declares Krsna to be the Supreme Person. As do other great devotees as Narada, Vyasa, Sukadeva, etc.
The rasa leela is about the gopis themselves wanting to join Krsna, not the other way around. Since you mention the rasa leela, did you know that Lord Krsna expanded Himself to many forms so that each gopi gets to dance with Him? No ordinary person can expand himself to any number of forms.
Srimati Radharani's name is mentioned in various Puranas. It's there in the Padma Purana & Bhagavatha Purana, among others. If you'd spent a few minutes Googling you'd find out.
And your claim of ISKCON having a negligible following in India, can also be said of any spiritual organizations fighting for attention in that chaotic situation.