They think they are more intelligent than disciples of Srila Prabhupada. One devotee from the video at 18.40 is on ISKCON now.
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
@ranjeet436 where's the order of Prabhupada show me, Prabhupada said that one can become Diksha Guru when approved by his Guru , this is simple as he didn't appoint anyone does that mean anyone becomes Guru as their wish?? That's where they fall down.. If they had continued this Ritvik system they would have never fallen, and Sashtra is clear again the same thing u can become Guru if ordered by Guru, and of course Prabhupada wanted all his disciples to become Guru but the training must be complete and again the order must be there.. he specifically said " but in my order, i will say now u become acharya" if u need the link i can give u the link of that conversation..
They think they are more intelligent than disciples of Srila Prabhupada. One devotee from the video at 18.40 is on ISKCON now.
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
@ranjeet436 Prabhupāda said this clearly u need to get the permission /approval from your Guru to become Guru and that order never came so how can anyone become Guru themselves, is it there in our parampara that anyone becomes Guru without approval from his Guru?? And what other proofs do u need there is 9th July letter and tapes with Tamal Krishna Goswami Maharaj showing ritvik system .. but is there any tape or Letter that shows u now become Guru particularly pointing to any of his disciples?? U need the benediction from the higher authority, u can't become Guru ,it is not Bonafide.. Prabhupāda said that u need the order if u are rubber stamped then u can cheat, same thing happened in Iskcon and still happening..
And the disciplic succession is not stopped the knowledge is there, when the flow of knowledge stops that's when the succession stops.
More than 50 gurus in ISKCON unfortunately fell down .. and still u beleive they can get u back to godhead?? If one get's the approval then he'll never fall down , and that's what I am talking about, the system is not bonafide in ISKCON..
They think they are more intelligent than disciples of Srila Prabhupada. One devotee from the video at 18.40 is on ISKCON now.
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
@ranjeet436 i am not targeting or blaming anyone Personally as i don't stand on that platform, iam just saying that the current Guru system in iskcon is not correct, if they had followed Ritvik system , many there would have been no problem regarding the appointment of Guru and their fall down.. that's it nothing more.
They think they are more intelligent than disciples of Srila Prabhupada. One devotee from the video at 18.40 is on ISKCON now.
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
@ranjeet436 Prabhupāda wanted everyone to become Guru that's true but he didn't find anyone qualified , Prabhhpāda said that u need my approval ,a Guru is guru when he is ordered by his guru to become Guru ,not that after The material death of Guru one becomes Guru.. same was the case of Gaudiya math ,they failed because they were not appointed by thier Guru maharaj to act as Guru. And Prabhupāda before leaving the body he said on my order u become Guru and that order never came that was a reason why many of ISKCON Gurus fell down, a Bonafide Guru can never fall, as he is constantly receiving the mercy of His Guru.
They think they are more intelligent than disciples of Srila Prabhupada. One devotee from the video at 18.40 is on ISKCON now.
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
@ranjeet436 why did Gayudiya math broke, because after the physical dissapearence of Śrī Śrimad Bhaktisiddhānta Saraswathi Thakur Prabhhpād, his disciples disobeyed him, and thus they left.. same thing happened in ISKCON, unfortunately, the 11 disciples misunderstood the order of Śrīla Prabhhpāda and they became Diksha Guru, whereas Prabhhpāda never appointed them, it's the same case of Gaudiya math and now Iskcon GBC elects the guru based on votes in other words they elect one guru it's totally a wrong system..
They think they are more intelligent than disciples of Srila Prabhupada. One devotee from the video at 18.40 is on ISKCON now.
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
@ranjeet436 Hare Kṛṣṇa Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda!
Prabhupāda's own disciples said that they left Iskcon or they were forced to leave, leaders like Jayathirta , Kirtanananda Swami they were falling from their position and when devotee like Sulochana Das (Steve Bryant) tried to expose them ,They were killed by Kirtanananda's men, Drug peddling, racketeering etc happened at that time in the temples.. and these are not allegations rather they were caught red handed with proof... American Marshall and FBI always found Illegal weapons and drugs from the temples.. even ISKCON devotees also know that.
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
And the disciplic succession is not stopped the knowledge is there, when the flow of knowledge stops that's when the succession stops.
More than 50 gurus in ISKCON unfortunately fell down .. and still u beleive they can get u back to godhead?? If one get's the approval then he'll never fall down , and that's what I am talking about, the system is not bonafide in ISKCON..
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
After hearing their arguments I can imagine how immature they are in the real understanding of person Bhagwat.
I pray to lord one day they can come to shelter of ISKCON movement
Prabhupāda's own disciples said that they left Iskcon or they were forced to leave, leaders like Jayathirta , Kirtanananda Swami they were falling from their position and when devotee like Sulochana Das (Steve Bryant) tried to expose them ,They were killed by Kirtanananda's men, Drug peddling, racketeering etc happened at that time in the temples.. and these are not allegations rather they were caught red handed with proof... American Marshall and FBI always found Illegal weapons and drugs from the temples.. even ISKCON devotees also know that.