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Part 2 -- Ritvik Debate ISKCON San Diego (early 90's)Reply 3 years ago thumb_up 1Replying to Liberte Parboogie YouTuberIt's absolutely senseless to assume that 4ever, there's none qualified to become a guru after Srila Prabhupad's departure. It's so absurd and ridiculous! Your so-called love for Srila Prabhupad becomes nil when you think that, he, Srila Prabhupad was not powerful enough to make just a single devotee fit to be a guru. I'll like to debate any ritvik on this senseless topic. It makes no sense, and it's not scriptural either! Shalom!!!Agree. Prabhupada produced many moons. Yes, the moons may still be rare, nevtheless, they are there. -
ISKCON Ritvik Debate San Diego - early 1990sReply 3 years agoReplying to Rosario MusumeciRupa Vilasa is trying to twist everything......That piece of evidence from SP is all we need to go about as it is clear, definite, coherent with the traditional vaishnava's precepts, etc...etc...In the philosophy of Vaishnavism not acarya will ever declare himself the last of the acarya as it is contradictory to the sacred principle of guru-parampara which SP always said it is our system. Rtivik means "only during the physical presence of the guru " the disciple is authorized to perform the fire sacrifice and give initiation. After the guru disappearance the disciple can accept disciples on his own and take another level or kind of responsibility in the preaching field. He doesn't have to be a pure devotee but a devotee capable to present scientifically the philosophy and he must have a good character. Those are the qualifications presented by Lord Caitanya Himself.Agree. And Lord Caitanyas mood was to be the servant of the servant of the servant of the Krishna, the master of the gopis. Even amongst the gopis there is a hierarchy. Krishna's vani is there in Bhagavad Gita. So why did he have to send Srila Prabhupada. Just let it rain Bhagavad gitas all of the world and that will be fine. But that's impersonal. The guru disciple relationship is personal and intimate. Why did Srila Bhaktisidhanta Saraseati beg initiation from Gaura Kishore das babaji Maharaj? He could have just excepted him mentally as his guru, followed his teachings and consider himself to be accepted. But in the contrary, he was actually rejected at first. So, how can any assume Prabhupada will accept him/her? What if it turns out that Prabhupada never accepted you?
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