Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.3 Class by Srila Prabhupada

So we don't believe in the next life, just to avoid this consequence. But that will not excuse us. We have to accept a type of body. Otherwise, how there are so many different types of bodies? What is the explanation? Why different forms of body, different stages of body, different standard of body? That is nature's law. Therefore, this human form of life should be properly utilized, not simply engaged in self-gratification like cats and dogs. That is not very responsible life.

Responsible life is, that I have got this improved form of life than the cats and dogs, and I have got more intelligence than the cats and dogs, if I simply utilize it for four bodily necessities of life. Four bodily necessities of life means we require some eating. The cats, dogs, human being, or high court judge or anything, they require some eating. They require sleeping, apartment. So that is, cats and dogs can sleep without apartment. But the sleeping required, that is fact. Eating required, that is fact. And sex life, that is also fact.

And defense, that is also fact. But these things are common to the cats and dogs. And man, human being, what is the special feature of the human being? The special feature of the human being is that a human being can consider that I have got this nice American or Australian or Indian body, then what I am going to get next? What kind of body? That is utilized for human intelligence. A cat and dog cannot think like that. Therefore our business should be, now by the nature's way, I have come to this form of life by evolutionary process.

Now I have got good intelligence. How I shall utilize it? You are cultivating knowledge. The ultimate goal of knowledge, Kṛṣṇa says, is to know Me. Vedaiś ca sarvair ahaṁ eva vedyam. The whole knowledge is meant for understanding God. That is the end of knowledge. By progressive knowledge, you can make progress. But unless you do not come to the point to understand what is God, then your knowledge is imperfect. That is called Vedārtha. Hathāta-brahma-jijñāsā.

This human form of life, nice facility, intelligence, just like Australia was undeveloped since the Europeans came here. It is now very developed, resourceful. They... Because the intelligence... Because the intelligence has been utilized. māyād-dhakṣeṇaḥ prakṛtiḥ śrūyateśa-carācanaḥ Nature is a machine. So do you think a machine works without an operator? Do you think? Is there any evidence? Now this is a machine, photography. It is a wonderful machine. It is taking the picture and it will move. But there is an operator.

Where is the machine which is working without operator? Can you give any example? Here is a machine which is working without operator. So how do you think that the nature machine is working without the supreme operator, God's instruction? How do you think it? This is not very reasonable. We have to judge. There are different evidences. One of the evidences is hypothesis.

That hypothesis is that because we see that no machine works without operator, therefore we should conclude it, even though we do not know what is God, what is the nature, we must conclude it that the nature which is working under some supreme operator, that is God. It is not... It is not necessary to see the operator, but we can guess that there must be operator. So human life is meant for finding out who is the true operator. That is human life. Otherwise it is cats and dogs life. They are eating, sleeping, mating and dancing. That is all.

That is not human life. You must find out who is the operator. This is called in Sanskrit. Now this human form. This human form of life is meant for inquiring about the supreme operator. Now that supreme operator, Kṛṣṇa, is so kind. He is giving evidence in the Bhagavad-gītā. mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛteśyate sa-carācaram Now here I am. Under my direction, the prakṛte, the nature, material nature is working. So you accept. Then your business. It is done. And Kṛṣṇa gave evidences how He is controlling the nature.

When Kṛṣṇa was seven years old, He lifted one big mountain on His finger. That means our understanding is that there is law of gravitation. By law of gravitation. Such a big mountain, it cannot stay in one man's finger. That is our calculation. But He did it. That means He counteracted the law of gravitation. That is God. So if you believe this, then you know God immediately. There is no difficulty. Just like if the child is warned, My dear child, do not touch fire. It will burn you.

So if the child accepts, then he gets the perfect knowledge immediately. If the child does not accept, he wants to make experiment, then he will burn his finger. So our process of knowledge, you should take from the supreme authority. Then we save time for research work. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. We take perfect knowledge from Kṛṣṇa. I may be imperfect, just like child is imperfect. I may be imperfect. You may be imperfect. But if you take the perfect knowledge from the supreme perfect, then your knowledge is perfect.

That is the process. This is called ava-raha-panthā. Knowledge coming, deductive knowledge. So everything is there. And if you... like to take advantage of this movement, make your life perfect, go back to home, back to Godhead, then fully utilize this center, our Melbourne center. Come here, read our books, and argue, try to understand with your full knowledge, no blindly acceptance. There is reason, there is argument, there is philosophy, there is science, there is philosophy. Everything is there.

And if you accept that simply by chanting I shall realize, that is also allowed. Both ways. If you accept this simple process, the chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and realize God, that is also fact. And if you think what is this nonsense, chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, then you read books. Both ways we are prepared. Come and take advantage. the advantage of this movement. Thank you very much. Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Srila Prabhupāda, we have decided in the scriptures that the Lord Brahmā rides on a swan, a hamsa.

Is this, we take this to mean that it's a real swan or is it something symbolic? Yes. Not symbolic. It is fine. Why do you say symbolic? It's rather unusual. Unusual? What experience you have got? You have no experience. Have you got any experience of other planetary system? What is there then? Your experience is very teeny. So you should not calculate Brahmā's life and other things by your teeny experience. Now, in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said that the duration of life of Brahmā, sahasra-yuga-paryantam arhācchāt pramana-viduḥ .

Now, Brahmā's life, it is stated in the śāstra. We have already explained that we accept the authoritative statement of śāstra. Now, Brahmā's life is stated there. Arhat means eternal life. This one day is equal to our four yugas. Four yugas means forty-three hundred, four million, three hundred thousand years. And multiply it by one thousand. Sahasra-yuga-paryantam. Sahasra means one thousand. And yuga, yuga means the four million, three hundred thousand years makes a yuga. And multiply it by one thousand. That period is Brahmā's one day.

Similarly, he has got one night. Similarly, he has got one month. Similarly, he has got one year. And such hundred years he will live. So how you can calculate? How it is within your experience? You will think something mysterious. No. Your experience is nothing. Therefore you have to take experience from the perfect person, Kṛṣṇa. Then your knowledge is perfect. That I have already said. Don't try to understand with your teeny experience everything. Then you will be failure. Even though you are not initiated, that is also service.

If you deposit one cent daily, one day it may become hundred dollars. So when you get the hundred dollars, you can get the business. So you come here daily, one cent, one cent. When it will be hundred dollars, you will become a devotee. So this is not wasted. It is, that is stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, kṛta-puṇya-puṇya. Kṛta-puṇya. Kṛta means done. Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is describing when Kṛṣṇa was playing with His cowherd boy's friends.

So He was describing that these cowherd boys who were playing with Kṛṣṇa, they have not come to this position in one day. Kṛta-puṇya-puṇya. After life after life having performed pious activities, now they have come to this position. That they are allowed to play with the Supreme. This person who says that they are suffering, when they actually, when they say that they are happy and they are not afraid to die. Someone who is not afraid to die and says that he is not suffering, how to... He is a madman. That's all.

Who is caring for madman's body? It is very easy to convince some people that they are not their bodies. It is not very easy to convince them that they are not their minds. Is there some way we could... That will take time. How can you expect? In one minute everyone will understand everything. It requires education, time. If he is prepared to give the time, then he will understand. Not that within five minutes, ten minutes he will understand the whole thing. That is not possible. He is a diseased man. He requires treatment, medicine, and diet.

In this way he will understand. A diseased man, if he doesn't care for medicine, diet, then he will suffer. That's all. Yes? Anyone? No? Yes. If we've been here lifetime after lifetime performing impious activities, well, does it mean that we have to be here lifetime after lifetime performing pious activities to balance our sinful reactions? We have been here for many lifetimes performing sinful activities. So is it possible to counteract all those sinful activities in one lifetime, or does it require many lifetimes? One minute.

That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. One minute. You are not reading Bhagavad-gītā? What Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-sarvān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja aṁ tāḥ sarva-pāpebhā mokṣayāmi You surrender to Me. Give up your all business. I will give you relief from all sinful reactions immediately. So it declares one minute. My dear Kṛṣṇa, I was forgotten. Now You understand? I fully surrender unto You. Then I will become immediately free from all things, without any reservation, without any politics.

If you fully surrender, Kṛṣṇa is assuring, ahaṁ tāḥ sarva-pāpebhā mokṣayāṁ śāmiḥ mā śūcaḥ . He reassures. Don't worry whether I will be able to give you relief from all reactions. Mā śūcaḥ. It is guaranteed. You do this. So how much time it requires to surrender to Kṛṣṇa? Immediately you can do that. Surrender means you surrender and work as Kṛṣṇa says. That is surrender. What Kṛṣṇa says to do, man-manā bhava mad-bhakta mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru. Four things. You always think of Me, and you become My devotee. You worship Me and offer your respect.

Full obeisances unto Me. You do these four things. That is full surrender. mām eva śyasi asaṁśayaḥ . Then you come to Me without endowment. Everything is there. Kṛṣṇa has given everything fully. If you accept it, then life is very simple. There is no difficulty. Yes? What is your Australian conclusion? Let me know. It's true. The Australian is something else. Anyway, I give you the right figure. Four million, according to American and English calculation. Four million three hundred thousand years. And multiply it by one thousand.

Then what it comes, according to English calculation? Four billion three hundred million years. Four billion three hundred million years. That is twelve hours. And add again twelve hours, nine. Then eight billion? Six hundred million. So Kṛṣṇa comes after this period. In one day, after one day of Brahmā, He appears. But does the Caitanya Mahāprabhu also appear every day of Brahmā? Yes. Following Kṛṣṇa. Always following Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa comes in the dāpar-yuga. There are four periods of each yuga. Honor your cota-p hose得 farm.

So this is the exact cycle. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa, after finishing His business in this universe, He goes to another universe. In this way, The rotation takes eight million, nine billion years. Just imagine how many universes are there. He stays in one universe for a hundred and twenty-five years. Everything is there, calculation, in the śāstras. Now you can imagine how many universes are there. That is altogether material world. That is stated in the Atamābhauṇaitena kiññaitena sabārthina viṣṭabhyo aham idaṁ kṛṣṇaṁ ekāṁśena sthito yadat.

This material creation is one-fourth creation of the whole God's property, and the three-fourth part is in the spiritual world. That is God, not that cheap God, I am God, this God. You don't accept such cheap God. And all the devotees here are your disciples, Śrīla Prabhupāda, eternal disciples, eternal servitors. And what if we have to take birth in the material world? In the next life, how will we be able to render direct service unto you? Yes.

Even if you remain in the material, if you have not completed your spiritual life, still you will get good birth. śucināṁ śrīmatāṁ gehi yoga-vraṣṭa-sañjās . One who is very young, in completing Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then he is given next chance in a very aristocratic family. Or very nice, pure, brāhmaṇa's family, so that he can again cultivate Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Next chance. So everything is, there is process. If you follow the process, then you go back. If you fall down, that is our fault.

Therefore the life is meant for kapasya, that Rīsabhadeva's instruction, that our life should not be wasted like dogs and hogs. It should be utilized for tapasya, for understanding our position. Putra-kājena śuddheta satyaḥ . This is the aim of life. We have to purify our existence. At the premature moment our existence is impurified. Therefore we are subjected to birth, death, old age and disease.