Hidden History of the Human Race Authors Tour 1994

In the fall of 1994, Michael Cremo, co-author with Richard Thompson of the highly controversial book, The Hidden History of the Human Race, embarked on a three-month nationwide television and radio tour to publicize their work. At the same time, a highly rated nationwide television program was aired, dealing directly with the theme of their book. In the last 150 years, a mass of scientific evidence proving that people like ourselves existed millions of years ago has been systematically suppressed by the scientific establishment. The following are excerpts from these shows viewed or heard by more than 20 million people.

Why would thousands of artifacts be ignored by mainstream archaeology? They show the unthinkable. Images of man battling with dinosaurs. Reptilian creatures interacting with men and women.

Ancient inscriptions on stones depicting complex surgical procedures and carved metallic spheres found in rock strata 2.8 billion years old. This evidence points to one conclusion, that the history of life on this planet may be radically different than what is accepted today. In this program, The Forbidden History of Man, we will examine documented evidence which suggests that our theory of evolution needs to be completely revised. Much of this evidence has been known for hundreds of years, but it's been ignored because it directly contradicts theories which are universally accepted.

We will hear reports from a new breed of scientists who have been labeled heretics for daring to challenge fundamental scientific theories. In their controversial book, Forbidden Archaeology, Michael Cremo and Dr. Richard Thompson have revealed a major scientific cover-up. since the beginning of archaeology researchers have found bones and artifacts showing humans like us existed hundreds of millions of years ago but according to thompson these discoveries have been suppressed and we have come to accept a picture of prehistory that is largely incorrect thompson and cremo have documented hundreds of cases which tell a gripping story of a scientific world shrouded in conspiracy and deception. And welcome back to 43 Focus, and please welcome Michael Cremo, who is the co-author of this book, The Hidden History of the Human Race.

Nice to see you, Michael. Good to be here, Gary. This, I believe, calls into question Darwinian's theory of evolution. Is that correct?

Yes, Gary. Essentially, that theory says that human beings like us have been around for about 100,000 years, and before that you would have had only ape-man-like creatures, before that apes and monkeys. What we found, however, when we looked into the entire history of archaeology, my co-author and I did eight years of research, we looked at every archaeological discovery that's ever been made, and what we found is that But there are hundreds of such discoveries that indicate human beings like ourselves have been around for literally millions of years. What's been the reception to this book?

Oh, there's been, from the spokespersons of the scientific establishment, there has been absolute outrage. For example... How dare you come up with any kind of... Well, like Richard Leakey, for example, he said, this book is pure humbug, nobody would take it seriously but a fool on the other hand we've had many scientists and scholars say this is a wonderful book it's really great that finally somebody has brought together all this evidence because a lot of it's not available in English you know we had to do eight years of research translate papers from German Russian you referred to in India the Vedic literature well Oh, yes.

I was saying in the beginning that we do take our inspiration from these ancient Sanskrit writings of India. They're collectively called the Vedas. Among them are the Puranas. Purana is a Sanskrit word.

It means history. Now, these histories tell of human civilizations on this planet going back millions of years. How do we know those are accurate? Well, that was our question, too.

Richard Thompson and I, we thought, well, if there's any accuracy to those statements, there must be some factual evidence to back them up. Now, when we looked in the current textbooks, of course, we didn't find any such evidence, but we thought, well, let's look a little bit further. And as I said, that led to an eight-year research program where we investigated every archaeological discovery ever made. And what we found is that, practically speaking, archaeologists and anthropologists have buried almost as much evidence as they've dug up.

Or perhaps overlooked, cast aside. Well, yes, cast aside. And there have been some outright cases of suppression where people who have reported such things have had their careers ruined. We should never, I don't think, be afraid to investigate opposing points of view.

And the hidden history of the human race is something that is in direct opposition, I guess, to the Darwinian theory of evolution. This human person who looked like us, existed millions of years ago, did not evolve from an ape, as we are led to believe in the Darwin theory. why has this evidence been suppressed and what kind of evidence have you found to support this well i'll give you a very good example now one example from historical times is during the california gold rush days miners were digging tunnels thousands of feet into the sides of mountains now the the rock in these mountains is over 10 million years old so when they were digging these tunnels they were finding human skeletons they were finding stone spear points They were finding mortars and pestles, hundreds of them, at dozens of locations. Now, all these were gathered together, reported to the scientific world by J.D.

Whitney, who was the state geologist of California. And he published a massive book about them by Harvard University. Harvard University was the publisher. Now, what happened to these artifacts?

Why aren't they on display in museums? Why aren't our children taught about them in schools? There was a very powerful anthropologist at the Smithsonian Institution named William H. Holmes.

And he said to Whitney, you, Dr. Whitney, if you had understood the theory of human evolution as we understand it today, you would have hesitated to announce your conclusion, namely that human beings existed millions of years ago, despite the imposing array of facts with which you were confronted. In other words, simply because the facts didn't fit the theory, the facts had to go, and so did Professor Whitney. But back then I would imagine that they did not have the scientific procedures to identify the exact age of bones and matter that we have today.

So can you be confident that this researcher was able to give a time for these bones? Yes, we checked with a modern geologist about the age of the deposits. Now, these things continue to be discovered today. for example and a vast amount of evidence showing that human beings like ourselves have been around for millions of years has been systematically suppressed and i can give you some examples for example in 1979 mary leakey who's one of the most famous archaeologists of this century discovered in africa completely modern human footprints no different from the footprints that you or i would make on a beach today now the thing about these footprints is they were found in rock that was dated 3.6 million years old and that throws out completely any idea of human origins that's current today why would anyone want information like that suppressed what possible advantage would there be in that well power prestige money there's a lot riding on it if any if even one of the hundreds of cases that we document in the hidden history of the human race were found to be true accepted that would mean that everything we've been told about human origins and antiquity for the past 150 years is simply not true and i don't think that the current establishment is ready to admit that how long ago do you think that that this evidence was suppressed i mean is this something that's been going on for for years and years yes this has been going on for about 150 years i'll give you another example following what it is that you have uncovered from other people's findings in this type of thing do you believe that man existed with the dinosaur for example to to to give people a general idea of how to pin right that's a very good question michelle and from the evidence that we've uncovered we have some very good reports of a human presence even before you know the time of the dinosaurs for example in the 1840s there was a scientific magazine called The Geologist, and it reported that in Macoupan County, Illinois, which is right here in North America, in the United States, a human skeleton, just like ours, had been uncovered in a coal mine, in solid coal, 90 feet deep underneath the ground.

Now, Richard Thompson and I were able to discover from the reports exactly where that occurred and we talked to the geological survey of the state of illinois and we asked them well how old is the coal there and it turned out it was 300 million years old which means it's older than the jurassic you know that word everybody knows now that refers to the dinosaurs in other words it was older than the age of the dinosaurs wow okay so that throws a whole new spin on it uh yes indeed it does and some of the scientists who have read the book have obviously recognized that for example william howells who is one of the big anthropologists of this century one of the architects of the current paradigm he said well if if this if what you say here is true it more or less throws a monkey wrench into our whole picture of how life originated on this planet and I think it does something you alluded to a few moments ago I want to bring up again you talked about man coexisting with apes and coexisting with another kind of ape man creature and you again mentioned North America and I think of course there's always been a lot of interest in Bigfoot, which is essentially where this is coming from. Some of the information that you brought forward is that this is just a descendant of this same wild man creature that was existing years ago.

That's a distinct possibility. Now, when I first heard about this subject, I was extremely skeptical. But what turned me around is when I began to read reports about these creatures by a very well-respected anthropologist. For example, Grover S.

Krantz, who's at the University of Washington up in the Northwest, he has extensively studied the footprints of these creatures. And he says they're biologically convincing. There is no possible way that they could have been hoaxed. And he's pretty well convinced that these creatures do exist.

So that's the sort of thing that convinced me that there is a very good chance that they're there and that from the descriptions of these creatures they seem to match very well some of the descriptions that we get of the ape man like creatures that supposedly existed millions of years ago okay so but yet there we keep coming around to the same thing people just don't want to believe it they just like you said well they're skeptical they go oh no that's that's just a hoax They're not hearing the information that noted scientists are finding. Well, all we really wanted to do in our book is put the facts on the table, all of them, not just the facts that you will see in the current textbooks, but all of the facts that are relevant to this whole subject, and let people draw their own conclusions.

One of the questions I first came up with when I was reading the book that you did answer in the book that i'd like you to explain was that i said well gee don't we have all these machines now that can look at the footprints or the bones or whatever and that will just tell us how old it is oh this is this is a very common perception we have such faith in technology and those who employ it that we when we hear about things like carbon 14 testing or potassium argon testing we think it really is a very simple process almost like you pop something in the microwave and boom it comes out it's not like that at all these are very complicated procedures what I found in practice is is that scientists may run several tests on the same piece of bone some of the ages will be very great some very small, and they will tend to pick the date to publish in their scientific literature that most fits the idea that they start out with about how old the fossil should be. Now, that often happens.

What do scientists and researchers have to gain by distorting their findings? I mean, you would think that if they found, if they truly think that they found evidence of man pre-existing, the dates that we take for granted right now, that they would want to be published, that they would want people to hear about this, that they would get their name up in lights, as it were, as making this remarkable discovery. Why is this so suppressed? Well, there are tremendous pressures for conformity within the scientific community.

For example, for every academic post that opens up, every professorship that opens up in an American university, there are generally hundreds of applicants. And it does not help your reputation if you go reporting things that should not be reported. It could be very bad for one's reputation. And in our book, we document several cases of that.

For example, Virginia Steen McIntyre. She's a geologist who I personally know. She lives in Colorado now. She went to Mexico in the 1970s, and she was a geologist with the U.S.

Geological Survey. She dated a site there where some human artifacts had been found at 300,000 years. All her test results show that that was the age of that site. But because that went against the dominant idea that human beings have only been in North America for 30,000 years, she said she was not able to get the report published.

She was labeled a publicity seeker and a maverick in her community of scholars. and she said she eventually lost a professorship that she held at an American university because of this and hasn't been able to work as a geologist since. Now, this is not the normal picture that we have of how science works, but unfortunately, these are the sorts of things that can happen and these are the sorts of pressures that can be applied in order to keep a certain view intact. So what do people need to do now? Apparently, we need the public to open their minds up a little bit more to alternative ideas to what we've been taught.

Well, I think one thing we need to do is develop a little bit more of a healthy skepticism towards pronouncements from spokespersons from the scientific community. Just as we've learned not to accept without question every pronouncement that may come from the press secretary of a politician or the public relations office of a corporation. We may want to dig a little further, keep an open mind, have some healthy skepticism. And I think perhaps we've placed spokespersons from the scientific community on a little bit of a pedestal, and we may need to give them the same sort of treatment that we would give to spokespersons from other groups in society.

The Bible answers the riddle of our origin in four simple words, and God created man. Darwin looked at monkeys and saw Michelangelo. But for modern anthropologists who try to put a name and a date to the dawn of humankind, the answer is constantly changing. Fossils discovered recently in Ethiopia put our earliest ancestors at around 4.4 million years, but some scientists believe that there is evidence that we are much older than that.

On an archaeological dig in Huayatlico, Mexico, Dr. Virginia Steen-McIntyre discovered tools that predated the earliest known humans. Her find created a storm of controversy. I don't really want to be in the center of a controversy.

I never asked to be in the center of a controversy, but I'm here. And doggone it, I want to get the information out. I want to get at the truth. I guess that's what it is.

Why does Dr. Steen McIntyre feel the need to protect her artifacts from her more mainstream colleagues? Why are contradictory findings being met with contempt instead of excitement? Some researchers charge it's because these new findings would turn modern anthropology on its head.

Welcome back to Talkin' Pittsburgh. Nice to have you with us, and this next segment should prove very interesting to you. How old are we? I mean, as a race.

How old are human beings? How long have we been on the face of the earth? Well, science says one thing, and this book, The Hidden History of the Human Race, says a major scientific cover-up is exposed, and the claims that scientists are sort of hiding things. Michael Cremo is an author and researcher specializing in the history and philosophy of science, and he, along with Richard Thompson, incidentally, Richard Thompson got his Ph.D. in mathematics from Cornell University.

Michael Cremo, what is your background? More in journalism? I'm an investigative writer. Investigative writer.

In other words, you did most of the writing of the book? Most of the writing and investigating. I get, I have to give you credit for this. You know, here's one, one testimonial that says, hidden history is a detective novel as much as a scholarly tour de force.

The murderer is not the butler, neither is the victim, a rich old man with many heirs. The victim is man himself, and the role of the assassin is played by numerous scientists. That's in talking about this book. and down here this is where i give you credit you put in here here's another testimonial your book is pure humbug and does not deserve to be taken seriously by anyone but a fool that's an anthropologist who represents the scientific establishment's viewpoint where do you differ with the scientific establishment in this book well you're right this this book is causing shock waves in the scientific community and where we differ is let's just put the facts on the table and and and look at them and see how they've been dealt with now i can give you another example yeah there is one thing though your scientific delvings if you will right have to be tempered as everyone's is by their own feelings yes now you are a member of the hair krishna um society the society international society for christian consciousness as is your co-author that's true okay you could have an ulterior even if you were trying not to right now you hear krishna believes in old souls right i mean that we have been here for forever yes now yes i am a member of the bhaktivedanta institute which is the science studies branch of the international society for krishna consciousness and we do take some inspiration from uh the vedic literatures of india which do contain accounts of human civilizations being present on this planet uh millions of years ago but my point would be if archaeology is actually a science then it shouldn't matter you know what your motive is it's like bowling if you bowl a strike who cares if you're doing it for uh this reason or another i mean facts are facts now the facts that we know statistics uh can be uh distorted uh for or whichever way someone wants them to be distorted.

We know that. Right. You and I could take the same statistic and change it around and make it look different. So let's look at them.

And on the other hand, other people, and I think we've documented this in the book, that there is a commitment to this idea that we have a recent origin on this planet that is itself biasing the presentation of events. Let me tell folks, if they want to learn more about what you've written about, The Hidden History of the Human Race is the book. And this is Michael Cremo. I thank you so much for being with us.

We have run out of time. Pleasure to have been here, Ron. Very nice to have you with us. Check it out if you're interested in the history of man and find out if you're a million years old, two million years old, or just 100,000.

Have a wonderful day, a wonderful weekend. Stay tuned now for Della Cruz. She'll be along in just a few moments. I'd like to move along here in some of the additional myths that you have listed here, Michael Cremo.

You have talked in terms of the fact that scientists don't cheat. That's a myth. You say there's actual cheating going on. Oh, that's very well documented.

For example, the Piltdown case is a very famous case that documents that. Now, what that has to do with is early in this century, There was a purported discovery of an ape man in England based on a skull and a jawbone. And this piltdown man, piltdown ape man, was in the science textbooks for about 40 years. And then suddenly it was revealed that the British Museum had tested these fossils and determined that it was a very elaborate hoax.

And many people have speculated about the identity of the person who was the hoaxer, and practically all of them center on different scientists in England, such as Sir Grafton Elliot Smith or Sir Arthur Smith Woodward, all very well-established scientists in England. because only somebody who knew the scientific method very well could have prepared these fossils in such a way that they would have fooled the scientific community all around the world for 40 or 50 years. So some scientist who wanted to perhaps give some evidence in favor of evolution, because there's not very much of it, invented this ape man and, in a very sophisticated way, cheated literally and this is admitted by the scientists themselves and there are more examples i could give and we document many of them in our book the hidden history of the human race myth number three michael that you have written evidence that goes against human elevation or evolution is reported only by crackpots now this this is one of the standard techniques that the scientific community tries to use against anybody that reports something that goes against their ideas.

They try to label them in a derogatory way without actually discussing the facts. And I think we've all had experience of that. But the real facts are, is that actual scientists have over the past 150 years reported many astounding facts that go against the theory of evolution. And the present scientific community doesn't want people to know that.

They want to promote the idea that anybody that's against evolution is somehow or other a religious fanatic, a crackpot but it's simply not true and I've had I've personally met a scientist who have discovered some of these things and what happens to them is it's it's it's very unfair the treatment to which they are subjected okay we're going to go to Anton in Brookfield Wisconsin Anton how are you fine thank you your comment I've often wondered how the perfect you know Anton not only is that a good question but also the point is if if evolution occurred i'd have to be simultaneous evolution of both species at the same time because if it took a million years uh for the female to evolve uh it would have kind of messed up the the whole procreation thing wouldn't it right that's my question a good question uh stay right there michael cramo your response well i would like to put together a book called darwin's fairy tales and i think that would be one of them you can just look at so many examples of complex structures and behaviors in different creatures whether it's the how the spider learned to spin its web or how our human reproduction system came about or any of these things they're a complete mystery They're not explained even theoretically by the evolutionists, and what they do is, when they want to explain anything, they just wave their magic wand and say, it happened by evolution. And that's why I call it Darwin's fairy tales.

Well, I think it's time to begin to look at the implications of all of this. I can assure our audience that you have hundreds of similar cases. And obviously you are inspired by a religious tradition, as we mentioned earlier. That's correct.

You're a student of the Hindu Vedantic tradition. It's very different than the Christian Jewish fundamentalist tradition that insists on a divine creation that occurred some 5,000 years ago. So the Hindu view of time is not linear as we Westerners conceive of time. It doesn't start with a big bang and end with a whimper.

It's cyclical, isn't it? Yes. The basic pattern is cyclical. And this is actually the subject of a presentation I shall be making in New Delhi to the World Archaeological Congress called paronic time in the archaeological record.

And the concept of time that you do find in the piranhas is, in fact, cyclical. Now, what might one predict from that? Say if you have civilizations coming and going over vast periods of time, perhaps you might have humans and other ape-man-like creatures coexisting. I will mention that the piranhas do talk about intelligent races of ape-like creatures that use stone tools.

This is not an idea that came in with Darwin. It's been there for thousands of years. Now, what might one predict from that. If you were to predict what archaeologists might find, you would say, well, they would tend to find a very bewildering mixture of anatomically modern human fossils, ape-man-like fossils, crude stone tools, articles indicative of a higher level of culture, all sort of mixed up and going back hundreds of millions of years.

I think you might also predict that given the biases of investigators towards a linear progressive idea of time with things beginning in a very simple state and progressing in a linear fashion to a more advanced state, that they might edit that record to conform to their linear progressive biases. And indeed, both predictions we found in our investigations do come true. You actually do have that very bewildering mixture of advanced artifacts and bones mixed up with more primitive ones going back hundreds of millions of years. And you also do find a very systematic editing of this record to conform to a linear, progressive, you might call it evolutionary view of things, which is quite amazing.

Of course, if we have this sort of cyclical picture, circular picture of things, much of conventional science will need to be readjusted. And naturally, I suppose it's only fair to say that Vedantic thought has many other ideas about the nature of time and space, the nature of spiritual dimensions. I believe that your view of things would be that rather than say that humanity evolved from simple-celled creatures, that in some sense we rather descended from spiritual planes. Yes, and this is a matter that...

Ron in Waukesha, Wisconsin. Ron, how are you? Yes, good evening. I'm just going to make a question here.

Obviously your two guests do not believe that we evolved from lower primates. And interestingly enough, one of them comes from a Judeo-Christian background and one not. Right. Now my question is, if we did not, then where do you two people feel we did come from?

And I'd like some hard evidence of a Garden of Eden. Actually, this is the subject matter of the next book that Richard Thompson and I are working on. we call it human devolution because from the evidence that we can see it appears that if our origin is not on this planet we did not evolve from apes on this planet we come from a higher spiritual dimension of reality there is creation involved and we have a relation with a supreme spiritual being and that is what the actual evidence suggests now to make a scientific case for that we have to first of all show that there is more to reality there is more to the human essence than just atoms just chemistry now this is another whole subject and it It took eight years for us to do the research for the hidden history of the human race and we wanted to do all that research so we could make a convincing case and we're now in the process of making such a convincing case for human beings as being ultimately spiritual in origin and we intend to make a very convincing case for that in our next book.

All the evidence suggests that human beings as we know them did not originate on this planet but have come to this earth from other dimensions. This network special will follow the efforts of a new breed of scientists who are courageously revealing a vast body of hidden knowledge. Carved stones, ancient statues, and human artifacts have been ignored by the academic establishment to protect their long-held theories of human origins. But should this evidence be allowed to speak for itself, the history of man on this planet may never be the same again.