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This was all planned to turn Srila Prabhupada's preaching mission into a new age esoteric camp and in this way gradually turn the movement into a Hindu offshoot. Today, ISKCON leaders cooperate with and support atheist governments. Srila Prabhupada's program was vice versa. He said that the government are keeping humanity in darkness. "If you kindly try to understand the whole philosophy—the first thing is, andhā yathāndair upanīyamānā, the whole world is now being conducted by blind leaders. And they're keeping people in darkness because they are themselves in darkness.



>>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -- January 6, 1976, Bombay

In kali-yuga many things are forbidden. Even a man's begetting children by his brother's wife. What we have seen in the past fifty years is that it should be even forbidden to worship living saints. This is what Christianity does. - beatification only after death. Devotees were bowing down to hundreds of fake sanyasis and gurus. This madness should be stopped. The possibility that a GBC guru or sannyasi is fake is 50%.

If a priest of the church deviates and falls down it is not an issue, Christians do not worship priests. The fallen priest is replaced. When in the Hare Krishna religion a guru falls down this is a completely different issue. The guru is seen as the direct representative of God, transparent via media to God, God speaks through the guru. The guru demands to be worshiped as good as God. When a Hare Krishna guru turns out to be a charlatan it makes the whole movement look like a criminal bogus organization.

This was when he tried to establish himself as Srila Prabhupada's new successor. However, he did that not to create a flourishing yatra but to become recognized as the new owner of the Australian and New Zealand ISKCON properties.

At one point all the American rank&file devotees realized the unelected leaders were so corrupt and mischievous that they couldn't work under such rascals. Today there are practically no local devotees left in the US temples. Only imported devotees agree to come to the US and at the same time get a green card.

At this time the gurus were recognized as the legal heirs of global ISKCON. Among other things this is the meaning of successor guru. According to secular law, the successor guru also becomes the new private owner of the temple buildings and farms in his zone.

When the last bill for the construction costs of the "Palace of Gold" had been paid by the 600 devotees who lived in New Vrindavan, there were meetings with the leaders: "How can we throw out all these 600 useful idiots now - a gigantic scandal has to be staged to get the palace vacated?" The rest is history. This is a common thread throughout the global ISKCON from Australia to LA. Wherever a temple or farm was purchased by the devotee community there was suddenly a huge scandal and the property was vacated. GBC lawyers were flown in and they registered the whole thing as US GBC property.

When the last bill for the construction costs of the "Palace of Gold" had been paid by the 600 devotees who lived in New Vrindavan, there were meetings with the leaders: "How can we throw out all these 600 useful idiots now - a gigantic scandal has to be staged to get the palace vacated?" The rest is history. This runs like a common thread throughout the global ISKCON from Australia to LA. Wherever a temple or farm was bought there was suddenly a huge scandal and the property was vacated. GBC lawyers were flown in and they registered the whole thing as US GBC property.

Even the Australian TV stations were asking - what happened? Of course they couldn't figure it out and concluded another new age religion that crashed. What happened to the Australian Hare Krishnas is quickly summed up. The American Hare Krishnas ruled like colonial masters and let the Australian Hare Krishnas collect money in Australia's shopping malls 24/7. Like slaves. The money was used to buy farms and buildings. Then the Americans staged a scandal with a smart actor guru from New York - Bhavananda - and all Australian monks and nuns were expelled and chased away. "There's nothing left to see here - go home, everybody." Then the US Hare Krishna lawyers were flown in and registered all farms and buildings - also in New Zealand - as US Hare Krishna property. The US Hare Krishna leaders then filled the empty temples with imported devotees from India and that is the state of things. Somehow the Hindu communities manage to keep the temple coffers full. The Australian Hare Krishnas still stay away and no longer go there. A clever coup by the US Hare Krishnas how to make cash with the temple buildings that they have also pulled off across the whole of Europe. Legally correct but morally reprehensible. Some ex-Hare Krishnas speak of a modern US Hare Krishna mafia that works with an army of 35 lawyers. It is all about to establish a global real estate empire. This is not exactly the Sankirtan movement anymore.

Seems the ISKCON elite doesn't like Goyim children in their temples.

It is now a secret society. Outwardly is says "Hindu Mandir"

As documented in the history of monastic life - monks and nuns who left worldly life behind should not father children in the monastery. This doesn't all add up.

As documented in the history of monastic life - monks and nuns who left worldly life behind should not father children in the monastery. This doesn't all add up.

He destroyed the original Australian yatra on purpose so that everybody left and the flown in US GBC lawyers transformed the temple and farm into US GBC properties.

1:02:37 JAS speaks as if he has knowledge but it is just bluff. This whole meeting was just a speculation. The actual process would have been to bring the eleven gurus in front of the deities and tell the truth about what Prabhupada had told them. Prabhupada: "And it is the system still now in India, if there is some disagreement or quarrel between two parties, so still they would go to the temple — temple is dharma-kṣetra — so that one may not dare to speak lie in front of the Deity. This was still going on. Even one is very low in mentality, still, if he is challenged that "You are talking this false. Now speak before the Deity," he will hesitate, "No." This is India still. You cannot speak lies before the Deity."

This whole meeting was just a speculation. The actual process would have been to bring the eleven gurus in front of the deities and tell the truth what Prabhupada had told them. Prabhupada: "And it is the system still now in India, if there is some disagreement or quarrel between two parties, so still they would go to the temple — temple is dharma-kṣetra — so that one may not dare to speak lie in front of the Deity. This was still going on. Even one is very low in mentality, still, if he is challenged that "You are talking this false. Now speak before the Deity," he will hesitate, "No." This is India still. You cannot speak lies before the Deity."

As it stands today, it was all planned from the beginning to eventually turn the Palace of Gold into a for-profit tourist attraction. Six hundred monks and nuns were used to raise the money and after the construction was completed and paid for, they were driven away by outrageous staged scandals. And the new owners converted the whole thing into a hotel operation. Similar modus operandi in European countries and Australia.

This was in 1995?

Simple temple? The congregation collects 24/7 and all the temple Laxmi is simply put into suitcases and brought outside the country?