Guru Istaghosti after Bhavananda Falldown New Govardhan - TKG and Bhagavan

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In September of 1986 it was announced to the Australian devotees that their guru, Bhavananda, had fallen down and was no longer a bona fide spiritual master. This is the announcement made by Tamal Krishna Goswami and Bhagavan Goswami at the New Govardhan Australian Hare Krishna Farm. This was the start of a string of falldowns from ISKCON's 'good as God' gurus. Bhagavan Goswami, who you see in this video, would fall down himself a few months later also.

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Mauricio 10 months agoVishnupada Acharyapada all those titles make me laugh. What matters is the examle not the titles hahaha
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Aa 10 months agoPrabhupada's movement always belonged to Prabhupada & the followers of Prabhupada - not these bogus charlatan "Gurus"
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Gerold Bendix 11 months agoThanks, I wonder how Bhavananda made it on the list of the 11 anyway.

Prabhupada must have been very merciful.
- madhu 6 days agoPrabhupada did not put Bhavananda on the list. Tamal did!
Eric Hardy 2 years agoOne of the best kirtan I've ever heard, true cry of the soul to Krishna ❤
Thomas Dunne 2 years ago"Zone,zone,zone, absolute hogwash"👹👹
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Thomas Dunne 2 years ago" definitely agent's of maya"👹👺
Mukundanghri 3 years agoNone of us are free from sin. Cast the first stone he who is without sin.
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- Julio zambrano 3 years agoyes, this is why most of us don´t take the position of guru, which is reserved for those who do not sin
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- madhu 6 days agotest
Oskar Baumann 3 years agoRussian roulette in the garden of the kanista so-called "goswamis".....
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Josh Wulf (Sitapati dasa) 3 years agoWho are the Aussie devotees speaking in the video?
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Claude Yuan Mauritius 3 years agoHe's still boss
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- KaLi Maa 2 months agoWho?
Sukhī Bhakti Devī Dāsī 4 years agoWatching this is very interesting to me. 9 years after the departure of Srila Prabhupada, devotees were struggling it seems to try and figure out what it means to apply Krishna consciousness to one's life outside of a very narrow application of living in the temple and either doing deity worship or distributing books 24/7, and struggling to figure out what it means to have a guru who is not Srila Prabhupada and to try and surmise who is qualified to lead, what leading means, etc. They had the philosophy but not the application, and the leaders were not qualified but were put in their positions by Prabhupada to keep things moving despite the lack of qualification. Really puts things going on both back then and now into perspective.
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- History-Social Science 1 week agoTrue. But even further, the 11 Zonal "Archaryas" put the Kali in the Yuga.
Drew Bonsall 4 years agoYou can see the lust coming off bhagavan
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- Eric Hardy 2 years agoYet..maybe we are all products of lust
- Jon 1 year agoYou are so elevated you can see that?
Ryan Cruse 4 years ago11:47 "Vishnupada" needs constant scrutiny of the non Vishnupadas because he is a dillusional fool. Your Sampradaya is a circle Jerk.
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Lloyd McKay 4 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA-CzGs8XfA The Poison Hoax. As with the other hoaxes that people use to defame devotees. Mostly the ritviks or at least some of them.
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Jayseva 4 years agoSelf made isCon Acaryas cover up meeting. Some years later I took part in a similar BS in Radhadesh Belgium, where two other rascal imitator gurus, Harikes and Jatapayaka were covering up the mess made after a blatant fall down of the seen here Bhagavan. All heartless bastard's.
Bhakta Singh – Serving Sacramento & Oroville, CA. 5 years agoISKCONs "GBC Elected GURUS" are hopeless and fallen..because they are voted to be a diksa guru not by any spiritual authority, just some management group voting..to keep the business going on..
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Graham Davies 5 years agobagsy went next
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Zanamarsenic Jana 5 years agoSo, all gurus are falling dawn! What is wrong about ISCKON? Something must be very wrong! Philosophy itself?
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- Zenodotus Of Athens 4 years agoImmature young men became Gurus. Self-appointed gurus.
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- Lloyd McKay 4 years agoNot all. Don't get caught up in that blanket condemnation of Iskcon. Srila Prabhupada came to give the world Krishna's mercy and anyone in or outside of Iskcon can take it up for their best benefit. Hare Krishna.
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- Zenodotus Of Athens 4 years ago@lloydmckay3241 So what was the plan. RTVIK?
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- Tito Tim Travels 4 years agoSome have fallen, certainly not all, or even most. It is unfortunate when a guru falls but I am glad to see that ISKCON is proactively keeping the house clean. Most religious institutions have rocky beginnings, and far too many cover up bad leaders forever.
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- Daniel 4 years ago@zenodotusofathens2122 yes. Rtvik acharaya. Jaganatha gogda-googa
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- Skwol 4 years agothey did not follow their gurus instructions hence they fell down.
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- Julio zambrano 3 years agoThey were not real gurus, a bonafide spiritual master with the qualities described in sastra and by Srila Prabhupada, does not fall
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- KC Consciousness 2 years agoThat's a beginners questions. Blaming the philosophy ,you can say that about anything. Again passing the responsibility of humans and blaming the philosophy is not the write question.
  
  Even when God was here himself, there was problems.
  
  So it's not the philosophy. It's PEOPLE, stop blaming, complaining, and justifying.
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Ankur Sethi 5 years agoThe chosen 11 didn't let HH Goura Govinda Swami initiate until 1986 even though he was on the highest devotional platform. Some godbrothers had to lobby for him to be allowed to initiate in Bhubaneshwar.
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- Rakesh Pradhan 3 years agoPrabhu can u plz explain it a little bit..
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- Juan Carlos Ramchandani-Pandit Krishna Kripa Dasa 1 year agoGaura Govinda Swami was authorize to initiate in 1984 along with Bhakti Tirtha Swami, Jagadish Goswami and Agrani Swami.
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- Ankur Sethi 1 year ago@HIThere-hg1py Tejiyas Prabhu said for a few years he asked the GBC members to allow HH GGS to initiate and they finally allowed
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Shama Gope 5 years agoJaya srila prabhupada

Jaya tamal krishna goswami maharaja
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Shama Gope 5 years agoJaya srila prabhupada

Jaya bhavananda maharaja
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- Davide Dotto 5 years agopork meat!
Lloyd McKay 6 years agoCame for the comments. meh.
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Jon Chapple 6 years agoCan anyone hear the name of the splinter group the devotees mention a few times here? Sounds like the "Haribols" or "Haribolos"
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- Riccardo Del Vecchio 6 years agoMost probably Sai Siddhasvarupananda.
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- Jon Chapple 6 years ago@riccardodelvecchio4892 Thanks. You're right. I googled "the Haribols" and it's what they used to call Sai/Siddha/Chris Butler's group (SIF) in Australia
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Sam Spade 6 years agoBhagavan left his position the same month along with Rameshvara. Sep 1986 was a devastating month for ISKCON.
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- Rosario Musumeci 5 years ago...was a very good month for ISKCON and for them as their departure has given them the opportunity to review their dysfunctionalities and misconceptions so that they can rectify their relationship with the Lord.....to finally become honest vaishnavas...
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- Zenodotus Of Athens 4 years agoExcellent month. It would have been a better month had Tamal Krishna left as well.
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- sahil karnani 2 years agoYou rascal discussing nonsense about vaishnavas you will see the greatest hell@zenodotusofathens2122
George Joe 6 years agoSuicidal is the only appropriate word I heard.
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- alcoholic joe 4 years agoHare krishna
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fogpumas 6 years agoIronic considering Tamal poisoned Srila Prabhupada
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- Sam Spade 6 years agoFile that report with the police along with your evidence.
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- Admiral Semmes 6 years ago@samspade2657 interestingly there IS evidence...his voice on tape along with numerous other accomplices' voices! They murdered Srila Prabhupada.
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- Sam Spade 6 years ago@admiralsemmes6939 Submit your "evidence" to the police. If they think it is solid they will act, if not they wont. So please give it to the police. What are you waiting for?
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- Admiral Semmes 6 years ago@samspade2657you're repeating yourself. Lol. Its interesting that you're defending a group of thugs and child molestor/freaks who have a proven track record of evil. Ur denial is amazing.
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- Sam Spade 6 years ago@admiralsemmes6939 Put your money where your mouth is and report it to the police. If you have real evidence it will stick. I want fact not idiocy that you spew. I am fact based not hate based.
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- Sam Spade 6 years ago@admiralsemmes6939 You don't have evidence that would be allowed in a court of law hence you resort to name calling. Nasty.
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- Admiral Semmes 6 years ago@samspade2657 interesting that u keep repeating urself yet never give us ur opinion of who murdered Srila Prabhupada
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- Sam Spade 6 years ago@admiralsemmes6939 Repetition is required when dealing with people like you. You assume Prabhupada was murdered hence look for a murderer. The burden of proof is on you. If you think SP was murdered then bring your complaint to the legal authorities. Why don't you do that and then have the demons responsible actually punished as they should. But you don't. You just talk. All talk no action.
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- Sam Spade 5 years ago@servantoflordkrishna4489 Show me how much "guts" you have - bring it to the police. Bring the guilty to justice.
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- Lloyd McKay 4 years ago@Chai_biscuits77 I don't believe it and who are you anyway. Some little person with no knowledge.
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- Lloyd McKay 4 years ago@admiralsemmes6939
  
  No one murdered Srila Prabhupada. This foolish idea is coming from some ritvik person who has gone AWOL due to their own criminal actions.
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- Lloyd McKay 4 years ago@admiralsemmes6939 Check this out for a more balanced view-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA-CzGs8XfA
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- Tito Tim Travels 4 years agoThe entire poisoning accusations are ludicrous. Srila Prabhupada had diabetes and renal failure. Verified by doctors and testing. A fallen guru makes up the ritvik garbage and the poisoning lie. You should be more careful who you listen to in your spiritual leaders.
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- Daniel 4 years ago“Is the poison in the milk?”
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- Skwol 4 years ago@samspade2657 tamal krishna is dead btw
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- Skwol 4 years ago@Chai_biscuits77 hope so, otherwise we all are sinners, will definitely go to narak if he exists😔.
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- Jed Steelwell 3 years ago@samspade2657the police don't really care in America something that happened in India and in India the people that poisoned Prahbupada inherited great wealth and power and Prahbupada was never examined for cause of death they put him in a hole immediately
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- Jed Steelwell 3 years ago@lloydmckay3241so when Prahbupada himself said I've been poisoned he was just lying?
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- FreeMagicFun 3 years ago@lloydmckay3241 Exactly. A fallen guru started the ritvik nonsense and the "poisoning" lie. The only poison there might have been would be from Srila Praphupada's advanced diabetes.
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- james cooper 2 years agoToilet door scribblers✍
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- Jon 1 year agoEven IF he was poised...you are saying Krishna couldnt protect a pure devotee from poision @jedsteelwell2354
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madhu 6 days ago Real gurus don't fall down. So these were not real gurus at all.